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  1. Jenny
    Jenny May 10, 2010 at 10:38 am |

    I remember quite liking Adam and Eve, when I last read Paradise Lost. I wrote my paper on Eve and grew very fond of her – I remember feeling like she managed to be more interesting and cool (to modern me) than Milton maybe intended her to be.
    .-= Jenny´s last post on blog ..Milton in May: Week 1 =-.

    1. Rebecca Reid
      Rebecca Reid May 11, 2010 at 8:22 am |

      Jenny, I can’t remember what I wrote my paper on. I should go check. But yes, there is some about Adam and Eve. I think people who just see Milton’s sexist comments about how she is weaker are missing something. I am not sure, despite his comments, that he creates characters that actually are as he says they are…

  2. melissa @ 1lbr
    melissa @ 1lbr May 10, 2010 at 4:19 pm |

    Oh blast! I had such high hopes for reading this with you and I still haven’t started. Someday I will and then come look at your analyses.
    .-= melissa @ 1lbr´s last post on blog ..Listless Monday, Children’s Book Week Edition =-.

    1. Rebecca Reid
      Rebecca Reid May 11, 2010 at 8:23 am |

      melissa, you can start whenever you get a chance, no worries if you take longer or go slower. I’d appreciate your insights anytime (and I’m half way through but the month is not yet halfway over!!

  3. Emily
    Emily May 11, 2010 at 1:05 pm |

    I had a professor who actually argued that Paradise Lost presents a proto-feminist view of the Genesis story, especially compared to the actual Biblical presentation of it. Adam & Eve both get to enjoy sex in the Garden, and Eve’s fall isn’t presented as representing the inherently weak and sinful natures of Womankind, so much as she’s a victim of the male hierarchy (Satan’s trickery, Adam’s dismissal). I think the argument is maybe a bit of a stretch, but I did like the depictions of Adam & Eve’s relationship. One has to make allowances for Milton’s time and place, after all.

    It’s interesting to read your thoughts on Milton from a religious angle – as I’m not religious, Paradise Lost was as much myth/story as the Iliad or the Mahabarata, etc., albeit a myth/story that more immediately informs the culture I live in. I can see how Christian feeling would add an extra depth to one’s reading of Milton.
    .-= Emily´s last post on blog ..Seeing =-.

    1. Rebecca Reid
      Rebecca Reid May 17, 2010 at 6:01 am |

      Emily, Very interesting! That’s actually similar to my belief of what happened — personally, I don’t believe in original sin, and the transgression in Eden was essentially a blessing in disguise because it was better to know good and evil and be cast out of Eden then to stay there in innocence. Anyway, interesting that your teacher read Milton that way too!

      I have been having a hard time writing about Milton without making it completely from my religious perspective! Lots of Milton’s theology differs from mine, but there are still enough concepts that resonate with me!

  4. Shelley
    Shelley May 15, 2010 at 10:02 pm |

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who found the war boring! I was wondering why God let the battle go on for two days before sending His Son in to finish it up. Why not just do that from the beginning and avoid all of those instant-healed injuries? I suppose Milton did that for the drama and to make it similar to other epics, but I could have done without it. Like you said, there’s not much suspense when you already know how it’s going to end.
    .-= Shelley´s last post on blog ..Booking Through Thursday: Influence =-.

    1. Rebecca Reid
      Rebecca Reid May 17, 2010 at 6:03 am |

      Shelley, maybe it was so God could show the futility? I don’t know. It’s an interesting question. Glad I wasn’t the only one…

  5. Rose
    Rose June 2, 2011 at 5:53 pm |

    I would argue also that sexism is not essentially miltonic but satanic. Their sex unequal seemed, but to who? seeming implies a perceiver….

    The initial physical differences between them are also described through their hair, which is odd because as we know – hair is shaped by way of barber not creator.

    Also, the etymology of unequal does not imply “inequality” in the way we see it – simply a difference, which i think we can all agree does exist between men and women. Again Milton is playing on our fallen perception of words to which we have added a negative connotation that would not have existed pre-fall….

    Anyway just a little ramble…. I do agree that the unequal representation of adam and eve would have been a reflection of the political climate of the times, and possibly milton’s personal view, however I don’t think this is the way Milton intended it in the poem..

    I think Milton was simply presenting the idea that our “fallen” state is what casts the judgement of inequality on Adam and Eve…. After all Satan is the perceiver and accuser in this poem…

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